Both he and the author of this story were able to warp the male experience in order to have many messages from women to sort though. I find this one interesting as the author here was actually looking to have a relationship, and eventually proposed and removed himself from the pool.
I hadn't seen anyone do a data driven approach for that. I'm somewhat familiar with LA, haha its sad he cut out the women from the east side due to distance because he's normally around UCLA. The east side women sounded pretty fun, younger, unencumbered but having suboptimal living environments.
Which sounds about right for Los Angeles. Makes me kind of want to ponder if anyone has done two apartments in LA, westside and downtown. This may be my favorite headline I have ever seen on Hacker News.
Is it just me, or the images on the post are not loading? Initially I tried on the most recent FF, and about half the images were not loading. Refreshed the page, no images were loading after that at all. Then I tried on the most recent Chrome, images were not loading at all either. If someone has a workaround, please let me know. I have confirmed that adblocker and such were all disabled. Not just you.
On Edge Chromium and no images are loading. Good to raise awareness as this issue has tripped up some of the biggest websites on the internet. I actually reported the exact same issue to amazon. At one point it was possible to trick visitors into purchasing anything you wanted on amazon. IgorPartola 3 months ago prev next [—]. As someone who used to be so want active on the site and even tried out their paid subscription, I had the features of the paid subscription for years after I canceled my membership.
They finally caught it and disabled them but it was pretty clearly a bug. SahAssar 3 months ago prev next [—]. As the author mentions, simply validating the content-type would have been enough. Since those headers are impossible to set from a form, and doing it with fetch it would trigger a preflight request.
I would personally build defense in depth and not just rely on one weak property. Business model is not letting you find your person, because if you do they lose a paying customer. I was talking about this exact thing with my girlfriend the other day. Tinder and other dating sites want you to stay as long as possible and spend as much money as possible with them. How do you do that? Number one: You give them hope. Give people hope that they will find the person they are looking for if they stay on longer.
Give people hope by helping facilitate a match just as they start to lose interest in the website. Make them think they will find someone. Number two: Cultivate a culture of attractive people. Keep the attractive people staying. This gives hope for the unattractive people as they sometimes match with them. Keep the attractive people happy and help facilitate lots of meetings or them. Now you too can get in on the action but not for too long if you have the money.
I realize this is a pessimistic view of dating sites. Heck, I met my current girlfriend of three years on OkCupid luckily. It's not all doom and gloom. They need it to work sometimes to stay competitive vs other websites. I guess it works as lottery draw, give only these a proper match today. LAC-Tech 3 months ago prev next [—]. Haven't been single for a while - is OK cupid still a thing? I thought everyone used Tinder now. Sort of. The thing is, a truly massive number of dating sites are owned by Match Group, which used to be part of IAC.
Epenthesis 3 months ago parent prev next [—]. PicassoCTs 3 months ago prev next [—]. They might be security wise rather weak, but their statistics blog is a brutal-beautiful view into what humans search for dating.
The official blog is the cleaned-up version, they removed the most interesting articles when they sold out to match. It's a good article, and one of the key takeaways: If a dating site makes you pay to send messages, then they have an incentive to make you send messages to inactive accounts rather than active accounts, since people with inactive accounts have to pay in order to reply.
This is off memory but I believe their stats showed that men rated women's photos on what resembled a classic bell curve, shifted to the right slightly. Ie, dudes were generally reasonable if not a wee bit overly kind. Women were exceptionally brutal in ranking men's looks. Women's ranking of men was a triple-diamond ski hill with damn near most of the userbase falling in I believe, again, this is from memory the bottom third.
Funny story: I got banned from OKCupid once for calling out other volunteer flagmods people suckered into wasting their time policing OKCupid user photos for free for body shaming and transphobia the latter almost exclusively toward transfemmes, but both coming almost exclusively from white, straight women. Some "controversial" blog posts they deleted. What people say they sort on: personality, values, morals, political views, friendships, etc.
What people sort on when they don't think they're being observed: genes. If I'm remembering correctly, it was way more specific than that. The only genetic thing is there were some extreme racial biases. You really don't want to be an Asian man or a Black woman on a dating site. But plenty of non-genetic things. Back when they let you list an income range, men with higher incomes got much better response rates.
Men heavily favor women who are at least ten years younger than them. There were weirdly specific things about your photos that mattered, too, like you'd get a much better response rate if other people weren't in the photo with you, you'd get a better response rate if you weren't looking at the camera. Women were more attractive if they were smiling but men did better if they were not smiling.
Christian Rudder used to publish gold mines for anyone who wanted to just game hot-or-not. Plenty of this was stuff you could control, not genetic. Though I guess you can't exactly control your age even if it isn't genetic. It also let you sift through the lies, like women would always say they were turned off by shirtless pictures, but based purely on response rates, that definitely wasn't true for men who actually had lean bodies.
I haven't been on OkCupid in a long time. I think they first started publishing these data mining studies in maybe ? A lot of the old blog posts were purged after the Match purchase. I'm sure someone saved them off or they might still be on the wayback archive, but I don't even remember what the url for the blog was at this point and I doubt it's still even public.
Your best bet at this point is probably just to read Dataclysm, the book Rudder ended up writing about all of his findings. Interestng, have a link for the study? Can't seem to find it.
This talks about a follow-up study 5 years after the first one, searching "okcupid race and attraction" doesn't find me the link to the article. OminousWeapons 3 months ago root parent prev next [—]. Not anymore, but before online dating people were hiding it much more. OminousWeapons 3 months ago root parent next [—].
People were trying to hide that they actually want to be sexually attracted to their partner? To me a not attractive man yes. But I'm from Eastern Europe, the culture is different there. DoingIsLearning 3 months ago root parent next [—]. Out of curiousity in terms of attractiveness and dating or choosing a partner, what do you feel is culturally different in Eastern Europe? Generally non-US countries are lagging behind by a few years in dating culture. What does it mean when you get a visitor?
But unless that visitor followed up with a like or a message, what it indicates on a deeper level is harder to determine. In some ways, a visitor without a follow-up is a false signal.
Some connections have sparked as the result of the visitors list, but likes and messages lead to more connections because the intention is clear. And in dating, clearer is better. Someone messages you, for example. That means that someone wants to get to know you better. Or someone likes you.
How Invisible Browsing Works Now. That's when I reached out and contacted her. So I'd argue against the "no value" a little bit. Sam Machkovech Sam has written about the combined worlds of arts and tech since his first syndicated column launched in He can regularly be found wearing a mask in Seattle, WA. Email sam. And so that brings us to the revised approach. An email that OkCupid sent out last week was a little more assertive on the subject. Short answer: zero. But I guess I can just block.
But the most resounding and vehement response from customers is that this is just a thinly-disguised money grab. OkCupid is being chastised on its blog and Facebook page — in comment after comment — as having done all of this just to get more people moved over to the paid A-List tier. Others have a different request: show us the data that led to this.
OkCupid has made a habit of publishing data — equal parts interesting and amusing — about the online dating hellscape landscape, and the company might be compelled to do that here in response to all this negative pushback.
As the visitors section gets tossed aside, OkCupid has recently been adding new app features designed to prod users along towards actually sending a first message. These are similar to regular messages but with the context attached. Accounts that do so will be banned.
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